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Explanation - Part ONE
 
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*Mgr_Sha-Keira*

Managers - NAF
 
We greet you and wish you well.
 
O Great SpiritWe place ourselves in Your hands today
and ask for Your blessings.
Creator. put the words in our mouths
and help us to speak here
in ways meant;not to destroy but to inform.
Let nothing be said that is not of You Lord.
Let what is written here
only serve to further your people.
Amen.
 
many have been asking what is going on and it had been our desire to just explain without detail - however in the last couple of days things have happened that we feel has made this impossible so we have decided to share with you what has been going on - this is because we feel that this is not going to go away without some disclosure - innocent people are mistrusting NAF because of this - because they do not know the facts they are leaving - so we will give you the facts - then if a person still wants to leave at least the person will have facts
 
the first thing i am going to repost here is what i already posted about when Runningbear came to NAF
 

 When Runningbear first came to N A F he came as a walking wounded.  He had been a member of another community and also had his own site for teaching Cherokee culture.  He had had troubles in that other community over some suspicion of his real identity.  Because of this he left the community and deleted his site.  I came alongside as a sister to him and affirmed him in his pain and offered to create a Message Board so he could continue to teach.  I prasise him highly in this community with the result that all the members here loved, supported, and respected him.  Then I invited him to become a manager. He and I spent lots of time chatting and laughing in I M.  He has a very entertaining personality.  Usually there was at least one other person present.  So you can see that we had a friendship and cared a lot for each other.  What happened was not due to any dislike of him on my part.  We were good friends.  He had invited me to visit him and his wife in May, and I was planning to go. It came to the attention of the council that Runningbear was not acting in a way befitting the warrior he professed to be.  He was gossiping, and that information was told to another.  The thing he was spreading around was based on some information that he had received in confidence when some people went to him for help.  It was private, and there  was no necessity for it to be spread around.  It was enhanced by conjecture and half truths when it was told. His site..."Runningbear's Den"...was deleted and disappeared.  He said to people that he thought we did it.  This is not true.  Only MSN or a manager can delete any community.  In NA F for instance only StarWalker or I could delete this community - or    MSN  if it has a reason.  I have received threatening letters from Runningbear.  I finally ans wered him back that if he did not stop it I would use all the council knows about him to stop him.  He has also said he can bring a slander suit against me.  I never put details down...I just informed that he was gone.  And that very effort to only say he was gone without revealing what I know (which is much) is part of what people who are still here or who have left the community have condemned me for. Some thought I should not even say he was gone.  I laugh at this thought, because he was important here.  People would have noticed and then accused me of hiding it. I do not believe it is appropriate to reveal what I know.  And there is so much in question about him.   I was not trying to destroy Runningbear (I loved him deeply as a friend and mentor).  My  council and I just thought he no longer belonged in N A F and took steps to remove him.  For me to air this dirty laundry in public woud be somewhat like doing what had happened to cause this affair.

RB had a wife who was murdered about 30 years ago and this woman is evil and her spirit is surrounding RB and causing him problems and troubles with health there is also the spirit of the grandfather there trying to help and stop the wife she has a body guard in the person of a spirit of a Cherokee warrior who passed about three years ago there is a family of people who died in a car accident and the child of that family sleeps with her she has not seen rb in a year and a half (interesting since she is pregnant - another story to be told below) - he is moving around hiding from the spirit of his wife - sometimes the grandfather is there with him and he is traveling with some important men of the Cherokee tribe i said you have not him? - and she said well he had been there in person but when he leaves the dead wifes spirit erases the memory she has of him being there at other times he is there in the spirit - at those times he goes inside of and uses the body of mickey  ;jo (the 31 year old retarded woman) - when he does that he even can work in the store - a store with no listing in the phone book for your information she talks of something the grandfather did - it seems that the twins who will be born in may are having some trouble sharing the space - and the little boy was kicking the little girl - she was crying and the grandfather brought her out for robbie to nurse and to comfort she asked me if i was home - who was home - said hubby and sons family - and said the granddaughter was gonna come here and come and talk to me by using someone here - i said not my kids - mustafa never did come in so i guess the grandfather got too busy to come she also told me that if i dont believe that the grandfather would come and erase the memory of it in me - well i DO NOT BELIEVE and i still remember - go figure

robbie has described herself as a 48 year old woman who has had her tubes tied she became pregnant right after their marriage - i know that sometimes the strings become loose and someone does get pregnant - it was a girl - there was a woman stalking her and RB because she was jealous and in an attack at a powwow the baby was killed almost immediately she became pregnant a gain - this time with twins - the babies are to be born in may - within a month she claimed to know that she was carrying twins - a boy and a girl - the scx of unborn babies cannot be seen until at least the end of the  third month - and usually it is well into the fourth month

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as we have stated - we began to feel something was going on behind the scenes - whispering and innuendo - either in NAF or in the Den - and we were at a loss on how to root it out </P>

cc had a friend whose name was SpiritHorse and she had told him how she felt uncomfy and how RB had treated her on that saturday - he decided to see what he could find - one night in chat in the Den he found more from the manager there than we wanted to know - he posed the question about why there needed to be the rb den site when the other site seemed so fine - the manager was Wolfdancer - (i will talk about her role in all of this in the final part - Part SEVEN) and she was a regular chatty cathy to SpiritHorse - he emailed thc conversation to CC

let me back track a bit - and here i am confessing to a big mistake on my part - in fact many mistakes

here is the first one

i came to NAF broken hearted - after an online friend had passed away of a brain tumor - he was native american and i loved all that he stood for - i told people about him and even couple of people in NAF were told the whole story he was very secretive about his location (I just knew it was Maine) and i never had his phone number one time he told me he was in love with me - and i responded - and for about two weeks we carried on a love affair online - then i told him it was not right and we stopped that kind of communication we did continue to talk online because i did love him - but the words were controlled - and he was dying of a brain tumor the last i heard from him was in march - but he had told me he would have his wife contact me about what happened

here is the second one...

when CC joined NAF and said she was from maine i was amazed but i was more amazed when she seemed to write like David had done - David was his real name - Storm Wolfe was his native name she used things like woo hoo and dang and he had always used them - she had two kids a boy and a girl and just like him - they were both abenaki although he was full blood and cc is part with penobscot, inuit and french - and the names - his nick was storm her name is storm - they were both in their early thirties i began to wonder if by some fluke he had not died and by coincidence he had found NAF - i was still heartbroken and so i deluded myself into believing this to be the case one day i confided the story of David to RB and my suspicions - confided is the important word here when i found out that CC was a woman i thought either that David was a woman all along or that CC was claiming to be a woman - either way i decided to forgive as time went by i started to believe that i was mistaken - but we were becoming friends - i never spoke to RB about it again or said i knew i was mistaken - because i was so embarassed - another big mistake
• i talked CC into coming to cali in October - my plan w as to confront her with it - just to be sure - when cc came here i told her and we discussed it and had a good laugh about it

here is another piece of it and this happened because of how highly revered as an honorable person RB is

CC went to him in confidence about a problem she has had all her life he was very affirming and told her it was not abnormal - gave her back up thoughts to show what he was saying was correct he was also aware of why cc becomes quiet at times - many of you probably may have noticed this in the chat room she has flash backs and when this happens she just goes into what she calls slow motion - it usually passes after some time one day he talked to her when that was happening because she had already confided in him she did not worry about his knowing about the slow motion

Diamond Yonvadisi betrayed us and our faith in him when he talked about this to Wolfdancer and who knows who else in his community. But when he did he implied that we were gay and that we were having an affair.  Wolfdancer told the whole story to SpiritHorse who she did not even know.

It was because of this betrayal plus other information that i have shared with you in the earlier messages that Runningbear/aka Diamond
Brown(not)/aka Diamond Yonvadisi/aka "CZ" was banned.  All the managers in NAF agreed on this as the thing to do - even Wolfdancer!

more to follow

please reply with any questions or comment s

i called Wolfdancer on the phone and sta rted the conversation like this - "momg - i want to discuss something with you, but i want you to know upfront that i feel like you are a victim here" - afterall i had been duped and i felt she had been too i proceeded to tell her about who Spirit Horse was - not something i had known about until i saw the conversation  i told her i had seen it and then i addr essed the issues told her i did not blame her - that what ppl are is not always easy to see she was very upset about what Runningbea r had done and she said she wanted nothing to do with him then she said i will show him -"Two can play that game!" With that she went to Runningbears Den and she <<<<<DELETED HIS SITE> >>>> i did not ask her to do it and she did not tell me until it was done she asked me to ban her from NAF because she felt unworthy and was sorry for what she had done and i told her to stop that talk - i tol d her that she had made a mistake is all and to let it go - that we loved her